Right out of the gate, LuAnn and her impending wedding to Tom D’Agostino is the focus of the episode, with forays into other people’s issues and lives of course, but it all seemed to somehow circle straight back to the women’s belief that Luann is making a huge mistake in marrying Tom.
I can see that they are contributing to Luann’s decision TO marry Tom, since they’re shaming her and crapping on her, and Luann probably feels so attacked she will stick to her guns rather than be bullied out of what she wants (since the women have now reached a level that would feel like bullying). And it’s already know that Luann is married to Tom in real life.
(Tom and Luann)
Dorinda tells the camera, “I’m concerned i want to make sure she feels very comfortable about getting married”. This all sounds good, but enough is enough. Stop picking on Luann ladies, and just led her do her thing.
(Dorinda Medley, 52, in Miami: lookin’ good)
Luann is in Dorinda’s living room at her home in the Berkshires and she says as a defense to the women’s critique of Tom’s female friends (and more?), “Jacques and I still text each other. I’m not going to change a 49 year-old man from who he was,” is what Luann says to shut the other women down.
This statement is interesting. I think it is very true. Luann is focusing on what is likely the truth here without denying that Tom hooks up with other women. All Luann does confirm is that she maintains a friendship with her ex and that you can’t change people. Avoidance. Yes. I see what you’re saying Luann. What if they did have an open relationship? Would people accept that? Nope. So I can see Luann’s frustration in that she can’t win either way.
(Ramona Singer with those eyes…gotta love her)
Ramona pipes in, “He’s still kissing other women”. Ramona is so annoying because if anyone were to criticize Mario for his man-whoring ways (it was always obvious he was a player) Ramona would have lost it on people and been hyper-defensive about her marriage. As much as I love Ramona, this double standard makes her someone who I think that it would be hard to be friends with. Ramona is full of love, hilarious, and inspiring, but her intensity could be hard to take if I were her friend.
Luann throws out an argument that I don’t think stands up really when trying to prove someone isn’t a cheater. Luann says, “He’s with me all the time. 24/7” about her then-fiance Tom. Um. It’s actually impossible to be together all the time. But the fact that you hangout together 24/7, and you’re speaking in such a way that you want to prove you always have an eye on him, makes makes me wonder if Luann is insecure and so she wants to make sure she babysits Tom as much as possible, so he stops embarrassing her with the public hook-ups (if these hookups are actually happening…still speculative at this point).
The conversation ends with Luann saying, “I don’t have to explain myself.” That is true. I hate it when I feel backed against a wall and like I do have to explain myself. I don’t like spending time with people who make me feel that way.
“Sometimes you feel like the train has left the station, and you don’t know if you’re going to go through with it…” is what Bethenny says to Luann, trying to encourage her to get out before the wedding takes place.
“He has women friends. So?” LuAnn says to Bethenny in response.
Ramona then hits home about how he’s a repeat offender.
“I’m trying to protect her. Down the road this is going to happen again.” Ramona says.
She knows because of her relationship with Mario. Her ex-husband and big cheater. Apparently she caught Mario, the father of her 20-something daughter Avery, with another women at their home in the Hamptons. Ramona then gets overwhelmed and highly emotional while saying in typical Ramona-style, “It’s only going to get worse Luann, it’s nog going to get better”.
“Maybe there is something deeply hidden in there that it happened to me, so it’s going to happen to you.” Dorinda has this theory about Ramona’s response to Luann’s relationship. I think that Dorinda is dead-on!
Luann refuses to waver and states, “I wouldn’t walk down that aisle unless I was 100%. We are confident in who we are and we trust each other”.
(Tom, Luann, Luann’s son Noel, and I’m guessing his girlfriend)
“Tricked guy syndrome is the guy who’s not that cute, gets a little bit of money later and needs to prove to everybody that they can have sex” is what Bethenny says about Tom. That is probably the case. I’ve known a few men like that who constantly needs to pursue any woman who responds to them because of insecurity. It sucks immensely to be with men like that.
Dorinda talking to her housekeeper Len is kind of funny, because I think it shows Dorinda’s bossiness. I’d like to be her friend, but I wouldn’t want to work for Dorinda.
Bethenny: “Luann’s like the Trump of relationships…Tom making out in a bar with a woman…that’s like locker room stuff…” I think Bethenny means to Luann it’s no big deal.
Finally, some Tinsley. Tinsley says, “I can relate to Luann sometimes you just don’t want to listen in my situation. It took a great fall (getting arrested) to realize…” the error of her ways.
Bethenny is using Tom’s dick for her stand-up routine this week:
- “His dick shoots diamond out the ends” Bethenny about Tom
- “Tom must have a 48 karat penis. If that thing can handle Luann, it must be good”.
Ramona says to Sonja about Ramona’s rift with Bethenny: “I have to realize who she is…I made a big mistake. It wasn’t out of maliciousness and I will tell her this at some point…I’m confused and I’m never confused. I need to figure out a way to tell her without her telling me I’m the apologizer”.
The focus throughout the episode remains on relationships. I like that and I think it’s interesting. Tinsley can’t date younger men anymore. “You really just have to go with your cut and your instinct and your heart”. This is Luann’s piece of advice to Tinsley.
“My instinct got me in the fucking toilet bowl,” Bethenny about her failed marriage. Dark.
“I am in a torture chamber…I’m in a very, very negative, torturous situation and I’m holding on by a thread. You’ll never know. Hopefully, you’ll never know” Bethenny to Luann. This is scary if Bethenny isn’t exaggerating. I know she’s in an excruciating amount of pain, but maybe not quite as much as a torture chamber.
(Bethenny’s ex-husband Jason, her daughter Bryn, and Bethenny during happier times)
Luann is kind of saving the day here. Bethenny needs to stop publicly shitting on her daughter’s father. I don’t know what Jason Hoppy has done, but this sounds freaky. Either Bethenny is unfairly characterizing Jason in a negative manner, or if he is as cruel as she says he is, then I wonder if he has mental health problems. The torment Bethenny describes sounds like the work of someone who is not doing well mentally.
(Bethenny and Luann)
“I didn’t go through shit. I’m in shit,” Bethenny about her relationship with her ex-husband and the father of her daugher.
“I thought you were done,” Luann says seeming genuinely concerned.
“I’ll never be done,” Bethenny says back to Luann. Wow. “I’m in goddamn hell and it will not end and it will never end,” is what Bethenny adds.
Then Bethenny goes on to say, “I sometimes feel hopeless and I sometimes feel like my ex is untouchable and I’m not going to be able to get out of this”.
That is really sad. I love Bethenny, so I hope she gets better.
Luann is the bigger person and doesn’t prey on Bethenny, like Bethenny did to Luann a year ago when Bethenny even called Luann a slut.
Then the Bethenny breakdown starts. Bethenny starts begging Luann not to marry Tom.
“It’s sad. It makes me sad,” is what Ramona says about Bethenny’s sadness and ex drama. I don’t believe that Ramona is able to look past her current blockage with Bethenny to have true compassion for Bethenny.
“I’m not going to share myself with anyone. I don’t share myself with anybody. I’m not ok.” is another disturbing thing that Bethenny tells Luann and Luann comforts her.
As insane as reality TV is, I do think there is something beneficial and cathartic about openly depicting the level of sadness and depression Bethenny is going through.
At this point in the night, Bethenny hopes Ramona will steer clear. Yeah, right!
So begins the elephant in the room talk.
Ramona’s defensive face is the same as my Mom’s. When Bethenny complains about how judgmental Ramona looks, Ramona responds with, “Bethenny I’m very expressive. That’s who I am. I’m emotional”. That kind of response is exactly what my own crazy old Mom would do too. It’s hard to talk to someone who is as emotional as my mom or Ramona.
“You have not been a good friend to me,” says Bethenny to Ramona.
“Are you fucking kidding me, Bethenny? I HAVE NOT BEEN A GOOD FRIEND TO YOU…” Ramona looks like she’s been possessed by the devil at the end of this episode so I’ll definitely have to tune in next week (as always).